What does it mean to thrive with a health condition like migraine? This tangled web of accepting, surviving, and thriving is the topic of choice for this very last episode of Health & (un)Wellness’ first season, Mighty With Migraine. Kat and Skye explore their complicated feelings about thriving (they aren’t there! and that’s OK!), share what they’re most proud of accomplishing despite both of their migraine diagnoses, and take a nostalgic stroll through the entire season. Bring on the introspection, friends — and thanks for listening.
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Additional Reading:
Breaking Up With Suffering and Shifting My Relationship With Pain
Episode Transcript:
Skye Gailing
Welcome to Health and (un)Wellness.
Kat Harrison
A podcast brought to you by The Mighty, where we put the human back in health. I’m Kat.
Skye Gailing
And I’m Skye, and we are your hosts for this season, Mighty With Migraine.
Kat Harrison
Between the two of us, our heads have over 33 years of experience being a pain in our brains.
Skye Gailing
Yours too? Let’s be friends who wear sunglasses inside.
Kat Harrison
Now, onto today’s episode, where we’ll be discussing accepting and thriving with migraine. Hello, Skye.
Skye Gailing
Hi Kat!
Kat Harrison
This episode is so bittersweet. We have made it to the very final one in this inaugural season of Health and (un)Wellness. How’re you feeling?
Skye Gailing
Like you said, it’s bittersweet. I can’t believe we’re about to have 12 episodes.
Kat Harrison
But it’s funny because I feel like whenever you and I talked about doing our final episode around thriving, which felt to be a very good ending —
Skye Gailing
It makes sense.
Kat Harrison
It makes sense. So, Skye, it’s the million-dollar question on the table. Are the two of us thriving with migraine?
Skye Gailing
Absolutely not. Kat, are you?
Kat Harrison
Not one bit. I would say I’m not thriving. Have I felt like I’ve thrived before with migraine? Perhaps. And I think that that’s kind of why this topic is a good one. It’s a lot more layered than it feels like; it’s not so black and white. So, I think today we want to talk about what does it mean to thrive in your life with a health condition, with migraine in particular? Skye, what are your initial thoughts on what it means to thrive?
Skye Gailing
I guess thriving is living your best life. You’re doing everything you want and then some. You’re taking the world by storm. And I don’t feel that way at all.
Kat Harrison
I think a lot of the time, thriving is seen on the opposite end of the spectrum from surviving, which makes a lot of sense, right? Surviving, you’re doing the bare minimum. Literally getting yourself from moment to moment, from day to day. Thriving can look like a much better quality of life, or at least that’s how I’m judging it.
Skye Gailing
Yeah, that makes sense, and I feel like I’ve been personally in survival mode for a long time now — I mean, just [ask] my nervous system. I feel like I’m in fight or flight a lot. This episode, I mean, we’ve joked about how it’s going to be tricky because neither of us feel like we’re thriving, but we’ll see.
Kat Harrison
So we asked our community about how they define thriving and what it looks like to them, and I thought their responses were just so thoughtful and really made me think and redefine how I think of thriving. I think the one thing I want to make sure we acknowledge is that thriving with a health condition does not mean you don’t have symptoms; does not mean you don’t have pain. It’s more to me about: Is it the thing that runs your life? Are you running your life? Is it the first thing you think about when you get up in the morning? Because it is usually for me!
Skye Gailing
Same here!
Kat Harrison
I wake up, and I go, “Am I in pain? Yes, I am.” And that sets the tone for the day. So Skye, what were some of the answers that our community gave us?
Skye Gailing
One of my personal favorites was somebody wrote, “I feel like thriving is a continuum. Sometimes, I’m closer to the ’I’m thriving’ marker, and other times, I’m closer to the ’I’m struggling’ marker. I don’t have a spot I’m trying to land [on] to say I’m thriving. I just know some days are awesome, and some days aren’t. Some days, I thrive, and others, I don’t.” That answer in particular really reshaped the framework I’ve been [using to think] about what it looks like to thrive with a health condition. Somebody else wrote that thriving to them is like trying to integrate the “healthy and unhealthy” parts of them to live their best life. I really like that definition because it shows that living your best life includes living with that health condition. It’s chronic for a reason. We’re stuck with it, for better or for worse, and I appreciate that people recognize you can be chronically ill but also thrive.
Kat Harrison
You can, and I think it’s possible, and to anyone out there who heard this topic and then heard Skye and I both go, “Mmm. We’re not thriving,” if you are thriving, incredible. Love that for you, want it to continue, share your secrets with us. I think that part of it is [that] everything fluctuates, right? Especially if you live with multiple health conditions.
Skye Gailing
It depends on the day, depends on the moment. Something that I find particularly soul-crushing about living with multiple conditions is that I finally feel like I’m thriving with migraine. and then it’s like, oh, well, here’s a joint dislocation to knock you on your butt. That’s a bit tricky, but yeah, I like the idea of thriving on a spectrum, on a continuum. It’s dynamic. It’s constantly changing. It’s not just what Instagram says is thriving.
Kat Harrison
Nope, and I think our community feels that way as well. A true or false question we asked, “I am thriving with migraine,” only 8% of people said that migraine doesn’t have a hold on them, and 60% said they’re somewhere in the middle, depending on the day. That’s absolutely where I identify. I don’t feel like I’m “just surviving.” I’m doing this podcast. To me, surviving would be when I was in bed 24/7, unable to communicate to the world, unable to take a shower. That’s not where I’m at. I am somewhere in the middle. I’m doing some stuff, but I am not having the type of life or the quality of life that I want, and I yearn for those days. But being in the middle, it’s an improvement, at least from where I’ve been in the past.
Skye Gailing
Yeah, I think if I get out of the self-pitying mode and more into the self-compassion mode… if you had asked me in March, I would have said I’m merely surviving, but these days, probably in the middle. Definitely depends on the day.
Kat Harrison
What would make you feel like you’re thriving? What would take you over the edge to be like, “This is it! I’m doing fantastic.”?
Skye Gailing
Well as specifically relates to migraine – because I think that’s where most of my focus and energy is now – I feel like migraine is really affecting all aspects of my life the most. Reduced frequency of attacks that would be great, and if I could predict symptoms or when attacks would hit hardest, that would also be excellent. But in the grand scheme of things, I think increased independence is definitely what I’m looking for.
Kat Harrison
That’s a really good one. I think you and I have two different levels of independence, right? You are still living at home. I do not still live at home, but I do find that there are areas that I wish I could be more independent. I wish that grocery shopping was not something I needed people’s help with. I do lots of online ordering. Just a general shout-out, accessibility, disability thing: never give anyone grief for ordering a lot of stuff online.
Skye Gailing
No.
Kat Harrison
The world got so much more accessible to me when I was able to cut out small trips to the pharmacy, small trips to the grocery store, and just order stuff online, so just a PSA for that. But I think independence is a really huge one, Skye. I’m glad you brought that one up. Let’s take a quick break and then get back at it.
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Kat Harrison
And we’re back.
Skye Gailing
Kat, what would thriving look like for you?
Kat Harrison
It would be, hands down, having a social life. How I know I’m not thriving is that the only way I get through my weekends and the only way I get through my week is to just completely shut myself off from the world for 48 hours. Friday, end of the day hits. Saturday and Sunday, I’m in bed. I do that to my benefit in the sense that I’m a much better, more happy person Monday through Friday because I’ve taken that time to rest, but when I take the time to rest, I’m sacrificing some of the good stuff in life. I’m not spending as much time with my family as I want, or if I’m spending time with them, it’s not time where I feel good. I don’t get a lot of friend time. I haven’t traveled in five years [to] anything that’s more than half an hour to an hour away from me. I mean, hell, some of my doctors are an hour away from me. I think the moment I can start doing those things again and not have to pay for it for literal weeks or months, then I would say, I’m living with migraine, but it doesn’t own me. I am not its employee. I have become the boss again, and migraine is simply one of my minions.
Skye Gailing
I like that, trying to put migraine back in its place. I think that brings up an interesting point about where we fall [on] another continuum, acceptance versus thriving. I feel similarly. At the end of the week, I have to be by myself for the next two days. That way I can recharge and rest. Last weekend I pushed it and tried to socialize and do more stuff, and, hooo, this week has felt off because of it. I think I’m personally at a point where I’m not really accepting that so much. I think I keep trying to fight against myself. I know that accepting my circumstances would be to my benefit, and I have in the past. I feel like I’m kind of constantly at odds with what I know is best for me and what I just want to be stubborn and do.
Kat Harrison
I have a hot take, which is that I think it’s really impossible to feel like you’re thriving if you haven’t fully accepted your health conditions, and I will say for me, that was an eight-year process, one that was filled with a lot of our good friend, denial. It was filled with a lot of not recognizing where I was at, and so it took me a very long time to say out loud, “I have migraine. I am chronically ill. I am disabled,” and to be fair, you don’t need to do that to reach acceptance, but for me, claiming it, living my chronically ill life out loud, all of that was so, so key to my healing. So I think if you haven’t accepted your health condition, it’s very hard to feel like you’re thriving despite it [or] thriving with it. I’m just curious on your thoughts on that.
Skye Gailing
It’s not the greatest thing to say, but the times that I find I’m happiest in life are when I’m in denial about living with EDS, specifically, and I think it’s in part because, with Ehlers-Danlos, it’s such an arduous diagnostic process. I was lucky in that the first time I saw a rheumatologist, she [was] like, “You stand weird. Let’s talk about it.” But I had gone literally my whole life since my first big injury at age eight and being fatigued all the time as a small child. My whole life, I’ve had this condition, and I still feel like I was in denial earlier, and I did all these things. I feel like I should just be stubborn and push past them, and then I’ll get to do everything I want instead of trying to take all my health conditions into consideration. With migraine, I feel like I accept it to the point where I’m like, “Yes, I live with this. Yes, it affects me.” But I don’t fully accept the extent to which it affects literally every part of my life.
Kat Harrison
That’s part of having a coping mechanism, right? Because I do that as well. I have some days where I am in so much physical agony. In fact, when I woke up this morning, I was like, “I don’t know how this day is gonna go.” And in that moment, I was like, “I don’t accept that these are my circumstances.” [I’m] having a very, very hard time wrapping my head around the fact that this, in particular, is my life. This is how I’m experiencing the world. I think sometimes we have to do that to survive. We have to compartmentalize our illnesses from our actual lives. And I know I’ve talked about this before, but sometimes we have to make decisions that make us happy, even if we’re paying for it physically. If I’m ever going to thrive, I have to have something that’s bringing me joy, and sometimes, in order to get joy, I have to push myself. Recording this podcast, Skye, has taken so much of my energy. I don’t know about you.
Skye Gailing
Oh, yeah. We’ve texted each other after, like, “Ah! Time to go take a nap! We just recorded a podcast.”
Kat Harrison
But it’s been so worth it!
Skye Gailing
Oh, absolutely.
Kat Harrison
It’s been so worth it, despite how hard it’s been, and I think that that’s a really great example of [how] sometimes with migraine, you just gotta do it. You gotta take the leap, even if you’re paying for it a little bit, because now I have something that I’m proud of and have something that hopefully makes other people feel heard and understood, and I think that’s really important as well. On that note, Skye, what are you proud of doing while living with migraine? What’s something in your life you’re proud of?
Skye Gailing
We had talked about this question before as we were preparing to record this episode, and I’ve been thinking about it, and I’ve been dreading it because, as you can ask my therapist — who I had a session with this morning — I don’t like talking about myself, or I don’t like giving myself kudos. So this feels so uncomfortable, but I had the wild opportunity to be on “Jeopardy.”
Kat Harrison
Yeah, you did. Everyone. I have so been waiting for Skye to tell us about this. Tell us more. How did it feel? How did you get there? What was that like?
Skye Gailing
So, I’ve been taking the online test since I was 15. I’m gonna be 27 this summer, so it’s been a journey. It was the online test, and then a test on Zoom, and then an audition, and then you just wait, and Ahhh! It happened. Like a lot of “Jeopardy” fans, I always wanted to be on the show and everything, and our lovely producer, Camara, came to see it in person. She was my audience member, which was amazing.
Kat Harrison
How very Mighty of the two of you. I just love it.
Skye Gailing
Oh, it was incredible. Other people were like, “Oh, yeah, my whole family’s here, blah, blah,” and I was like, “My coworker, who I’ve never met in person, is here. I’m so excited.” That was wild because I did have to travel from the East Coast to L.A., which I’ve never been to before, and I was on my own and the day after I got there, I had a horrible migraine, probably unsurprisingly. I went in February when LA was getting drenched in rain, and it was a weird weather time. My head was not happy, but it was one of those things where, yeah, I had to push myself. I wasn’t not going to do it.
Kat Harrison
I mean, you were on “Jeopardy.”
Skye Gailing
Yeah. It’s a wildest dream come true. Of course, I was like, “OK, even if I get hit with a horrible migraine on stage, [I] gotta do it.” There was no way I would miss that and, so that’s definitely something I’m really proud of.
Kat Harrison
I’m so proud of you. Did I have a viewing party with my parents to watch your episode? I did.
Skye Gailing
That is so cute!
Kat Harrison
My parents have this really cool theater room and have this amazing projector. I got to see Skye on the big screen, and my parents were into it. I tried answering the questions. Literally, there was only one category that I feel like I did well. But you did it even with chronic illness, and that’s really exciting.
Skye Gailing
The letdown migraine after was wild, and I lowkey think I’m still paying for that trip even though we’re recording this months after I was on the show. I still feel like the letdown migraine from making that journey is still hitting me.
Kat Harrison
That, to me, is why my social life is just not very vibrant.
Skye Gailing
It’s hard.
Kat Harrison
If I am going to take care of myself, I just have to weigh the pros and cons, and I invite the day when I’m able to not have to do so many chronic illness calculations to figure out how much I give and how much I take. But yay, what a great thing to be proud of.
Skye Gailing
And I was about to say, now, one of my favorite topics: what Kat’s proud of accomplishing with migraine!
Kat Harrison
Y’all. I wrote two books!
Skye Gailing
And they’re so incredible.
Kat Harrison
Thank you. My books are called “Migraine and Mia” and “Surgery on Sunday.” They are both picture books, kids’ books, but I will say I hear from a lot of adults that read them. They have just been a lifelong dream of mine. I’ve always wanted to be a writer — definitely never wanted to be a podcast host, but I mean, come on, [I’m] adopting it as my second career path now — but they have been just such bright spots in my life: being able to connect with other people, kids who have been in the hospital and go in having read my book, repeating lines, giving the book to nurses… What joy that’s brought me. It comes from a place of deep physical pain, and I don’t want to turn into that, like, “I took lemons and made lemonade,” but I really did do my own version of that. There’s that saying, “Write what you know,” and what I know is health struggles. I’m really proud of being able to take that and make it into something. I would say the other thing I’m super proud of doing with migraine is that I’m a kickass dog mom.
Skye Gailing
Doxon, the sweet baby.
Kat Harrison
He’s so sweet! I adopted Doxon when I was in a very, very large depressive episode. It got to a point where it was just like, “This loneliness is so deep inside me, and I just can’t be by myself all day, every day, when my partner is at work.” So I adopted him and I’m just so proud of myself. You know, a lot of my spare energy goes to taking care of him, and it’s worth every single moment. He’s sleeping behind me right now and I just look at him like, “My baby! My angel.”
Skye Gailing
It’s just the ears. His ears! It’s, like, ahh!
Kat Harrison
He’s got this awesome collar of fur around him. He looks like a little lion! Well, thank you, Skye, for opening up and being honest about how you’re doing. The last thing I wanted to do was come on this episode today, everyone, and be like, “Skye and I are thriving with migraine. You can, too.”
Skye Gailing
We’re having a great time.
Kat Harrison
Love this. It was really good, though. I know I especially loved episode 10 when we had Morgan on, and she shared her story of hope, recovery, and thriving. I hope that we can one day get there, and I hope that life for so many others. I’m curious, Skye. When you look back on this season, what topics did you love talking about?
Skye Gailing
It’s so hard to pick just one. I mean, every episode we had a guest on was incredible. [I] learned so much. That treatment episode with Dr. Vanderplume? Oh, my goodness. But I came into this really excited for the mental health and migraine episode, and I don’t know if “enjoy” is the right word. It ended up being more challenging to talk about than I thought. There’s something about vulnerability that gets a bit different when you’re in front of a microphone and you’re being recorded.
Kat Harrison
I think it’s because your voice sounds so good, which means that your vulnerabilities are so clear. I really am especially thankful that our guests were vulnerable themselves. It made me feel really comfortable about sharing myself. A really special thing for me is when we had the episode with three other Mighty staffers who talked about their experiences with migraine. And I think it was just a reminder to me that there are so many of us out there, and that there is strength in exchanging tips, and there is strength in just commiserating about the awfulness that migraine can be. I don’t take that episode for granted. I really, really enjoyed that. Skye, what’s been the hardest part about recording this podcast?
Skye Gailing
It’s hard when you’re recording and you’re in the midst of a brutal migraine attack. We knew that would happen. We knew we’d be in pain while recording because, you know, we tend to always be in pain.
Kat Harrison
Can’t have chronic migraine and record a 12-episode season in a short amount of time without knowing that you’re gonna feel pretty miserable some of those recording days.
Skye Gailing
Oh, yeah. There are some days I’ll rip off the ice pack, and I’m like, “All right. Time to get into this.” And so that would be hard with the brain fog and everything. But if you’ve been with us through this whole journey — thank you for that, by the way — I would get really emotional because the reality of living with migraine for as long as I have, how it’s the reality for so many people around the world, it would really sink in and I would get super emotional and just have to take a moment to myself. That was hard. What’d you find?
Kat Harrison
I felt a great responsibility to represent the condition well. You and I only… we’re two perspectives in a very large sea of people living with migraine, and we don’t have other types of migraine that people have, and so part of me is like, “Oh, I really wish we could have had more representation from a variety of levels in terms of migraine experiences,” so I’ve been really anxious. I hope everyone feels like we did the condition well, that we’re advocating and representing it well. Something I really struggled with was: did you know it’s really hard to pace an episode? To make sure that you’re not talking for too long about one thing and moving through it, Skye?
Skye Gailing
I listen to probably 40 hours of podcasts at least every week and a half. It’s so different. Kat is amazing. A natural. Your reporter instincts are just so there, even on the podcast. But yeah, it’s different.
Kat Harrison
What do you wish you would have had time to dive into this season that we didn’t really get to talk about?
Skye Gailing
I mean, our audience is probably super thankful we didn’t have time for this, but I would have loved to get into the nitty gritty physiology of it all and the different theories of “Oh, well, we thought migraine was vascular, but we disproved that, so let’s talk about how the nervous system works in these ion channels and different synapses, blah, blah, blah.” I would have loved to talk more about that.
Kat Harrison
I would not be able to contribute to that episode, but I’d love to watch you do it by yourself.
Skye Gailing
Ohhh, me neither. I would have loved to have one of our amazing neurologist guests teach me. That, and the history of migraine, which we got a bit into, but I would have loved to do a deeper dive of like, “Oh, let’s talk about what Pliny the Elder thought you could use to treat migraine,” because that’s wild. How about you, Kat? What do you wish we had time for?
Kat Harrison
I wish we would have had a parenting episode so bad. It was one of those topics that hit the cutting room floor if you will. We had to narrow it down to 12 topics when we were outlining, and I really wish we could have had one about parenting. And both sides, right? People like me who have had to make really tough “not being a parent” decisions because of migraine, but then also the people who are parents and what it’s like for them to live with migraine and have a family. Or the other end: what it’s like to have a child that lives with migraine. I think that that would have been really interesting to explore. Perhaps one day we will have an opportunity to have those guests because that would be really, really interesting.
Skye Gailing
Let’s maybe get a little spicy.
Kat Harrison
Me, spicy? No.
Skye Gailing
What won’t you miss about making this podcast?
Kat Harrison
I admittedly will not miss the amount of energy I need to recoup when I’m done. Typically, when we’ve been recording these episodes, my brain is like one of those 1980s or 70s — I don’t know, whenever Pyrex jello mold salads were popular, that is what my brain feels like — it’s just a straight-up really gross, lime, jello brain.
Skye Gailing
That’s so specific, and I wasn’t expecting it! Yeah, that’s so good. The 50s hot dog jello. Yeah, yeah.
Kat Harrison
You know what I mean? I’ve really had to front-load my days, like the amount of stuff I tried to get done before this, so I won’t miss that. What about you, Skye?
Skye Gailing
I couldn’t endorse what you said more. It’s exhausting. I finish this up, and I’m like, “How does everybody on NPR… You’re telling me Ira Glass doesn’t have to take a nap for three hours after recording?” It’s a lot. But I think it’s safe to say we both will miss a lot more than we’re saying we won’t miss; the pros definitely outweigh the cons.
Kat Harrison
Oh, the pros are overflowing. One, it’s been so nice getting to know you better. I think one thing I’ve realized is that when you work remotely, and you work async a lot of the time, you don’t really get to sit down with your co-workers and really, really, really talk to them. You talk on Zoom, but it’s usually a couple of minutes of rapport prior to getting down and dirty, and even though this has technically been work, it’s been really lovely to get to know you better and hear more about your life.
Skye Gailing
That’s definitely one of my favorite parts. I mean, without this show, I wouldn’t have known you went to space camp. Are you kidding me?
Kat Harrison
I have not been able to top that anecdote all season long. I kept thinking, “There’s gonna be another time where I can just drop this really great moment.” And I dunno. Space camp really just sets it apart.
Skye Gailing
It’s been so nice to get to know you more. I mean, initially, I was not going to be a host on this podcast at all. That was not the plan originally. I was just going to do, “Oh, let me look at some statistics and pop in some research behind the scenes.” And then, you know, things happen. The ideas for the series evolved, and we were like, “Alright, we’re gonna have two hosts for this,” and I was like, “Alright, put me in coach. Let’s go.” It’s been so great to just bask in your greatness, Kat, but also get to know you better.
Kat Harrison
I think the other thing that’s been really fascinating — we’ve talked about this before. One of my favorite parts about being at the Mighty is how much you learn about health conditions — and so it was really interesting to me that even though we both live with migraine, have lived with it for a very long time — I like to think I know a lot about the disease and can speak about it in a way that feels educated and articulate — I still learned so much.
Skye Gailing
Oh my goodness, yes.
Kat Harrison
From our guests, from listening, from doing all of our research, from talking to our community. I feel like I have such a better understanding of other people who live with migraine, kind of the future of migraine, of research, of treatments, ways that I can talk to my doctor better. Skye, perhaps going and seeing an actual headache specialist.
Skye Gailing
I have to make that phone call today. It’s on my list.
Kat Harrison
Yep. Good things have happened as a result of this season. And, of course, more than anything, shout-out to everyone who has listened and made it through this entire season. We’re really grateful for you, and we will probably miss you most of all. Now Skye and I have to go back to just talking to each other, which is fun but not nearly as fun as having everyone out there as a part of it.
Skye Gailing
Yeah, thank you all so much for being there with us every step of the way. It’s been really nice to feel connected with our community in a new way.
Kat Harrison
I think the last thing would be: this is not the end of Health and (un)Wellness. This was solely our very first season, so if you have a topic or a condition — it would be really nice to do something like depression or anxiety or bipolar or BPD — let us know what condition you would like us to explore next. So I shared my hopes for the future of Health and (un)Wellness, but Skye, what about you? What conditions would you love to see us cover?
Skye Gailing
Bipolar is a big one for me on a very personal level, but it would be really interesting to dive into that OCD. Also, near and dear to my heart, we have a pretty big Ehlers-Danlos syndrome audience. I don’t know how we would encapsulate every subtype in just the season of a podcast, but that’d be really exciting to cover as well.
Kat Harrison
I’d love to see the misconception — not see, but listen to — the misconceptions episode of an EDS season.
Skye Gailing
Ooh, so many.
Kat Harrison
So many, and same with OCD. Those would all be really, really good. I like that a lot.
Skye Gailing
Thank you all so much for listening. We hope you laughed, learned, and felt seen in equal measure throughout this first migraine-centric season of Health and (un)Wellness.
Kat Harrison
Skye and I, we loved being your co-pilots this season. Thank you for being here with us through the ups and the downs that come with living with migraine because there are a lot of them. We’re always here for you, in sickness and in health.
Skye Gailing
And, it’s nice to know you’re here for us too. And in case you needed to hear it, you are worthy, even on your worst pain days.
Kat Harrison
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